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LiveCD Ubuntu Bakal Berakhir?

Postby ninja » 09 Sep 2012, 09:03

kabarnya ubuntu liveCD bakal berakhir ini apa iyah? :cry:
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It�s official: the Ubuntu Live CD* is dead.

Ubuntu 12.10 will increase the maximum size of its disc image from 700MB to 800MB, thereby making it too big to fit onto traditional CD-R media.

The news came from Canonical�s Kate Stewart on the Ubuntu Mailing list, who wrote:

There is no longer a traditional CD sized image, DVD or alternate image, but rather a single 800MB Ubuntu image that can be used from USB or DVD.

Ubuntu Server remains unaffected by the switch.
Why The Increase?

The reasoning behind the increase is likely to be two-fold.

Firstly, an extra 100MB of space on the disc gives developers more breathing room. As apps, packages and their dependencies become larger so to does the �foot print� needed for them on the CD.

In the past this has resulted in tough choices have to made as to what can ship on the CD and what can�t.

But the buffer remains small enough to enforce discipline and thrift, thus making sure that developers keep the default install as trim as possible. This �thrift� is already evident: the Ubuntu 12.10 Beta image clocks in at 745MB.

Secondly, �consolidation� of images and developer effort will play a part.

Prior to Ubuntu 12.10 alternate installer and DVD-sized .iso�s were available to download alongside the main �LiveCD� image.

The more images produced, the more time that has to be spent by developers in compiling, checking, bug testing and reviewing each specific build.

But for Ubuntu 12.10 both of these have been retired.
How It Compares to Older Releases

The increase means that the standard live CD for Ubuntu 12.10 will displace Ubuntu�s 8.04 to 9.04 as the largest sized releases.

Disc sizes for Ubuntu Releases (standard live desktop 32bit iso)

Ubuntu 12.10 Beta 1 745MB
Ubuntu 12.04.1 695MB
Ubuntu 11.10 695MB
Ubuntu 11.04 685MB
Ubuntu 10.10 693MB
Ubuntu 10.04.4 694MB
Ubuntu 9.10 690MB
Ubuntu 9.04 699MB
Ubuntu 8.10 699MB
Ubuntu 8.04 699MB
Ubuntu 7.10 696MB
Ubuntu 7.04 698MB
Ubuntu 6.10 698MB
Ubuntu 6.06 696MB
Ubuntu 5.04 627MB
Ubuntu 5.04 625MB
Ubuntu 4.10 643M

How to Install Ubuntu 12.10 From Now On

So Ubuntu 12.10 won�t fit on a your regular blank CDs, but is it really that much of a problem?

Most PCs and Laptops made within the last 6-7 years ship with DVD drives. And external USB powered DVD writers are easy and cheap to come by, as is blank DVD media.

USB installs have been long-supported in Ubuntu, too. In fact Ubuntu ships with an Live USB creator by default, and there are similar apps available for Windows and OS X.

So this change, despite adding a little extra waiting time to your download, isn�t likely to prove much of a problem for most users. And where a laptop or device is so old that it can�t support DVD or USB booting it�s probably not going to be �fast enough� to run the new �Unified Unity� anyway, so a CD-sized Ubuntu spin like Lubuntu would make more sense.



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Re: LiveCD Ubuntu Bakal Berakhir?

Postby belthsazar » 09 Sep 2012, 09:35

setuju. toh selama ini saya lebih sering pake LiveFD daripada LiveCD. :grin:
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Re: LiveCD Ubuntu Bakal Berakhir?

Postby blackshirt » 09 Sep 2012, 11:37

setuju...cd sudah makin jarang...
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Re: LiveCD Ubuntu Bakal Berakhir?

Postby sigitbone » 09 Sep 2012, 12:23

wah, berarti ntar ubuntu yang baru live DVD donk yah :blush:
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Re: LiveCD Ubuntu Bakal Berakhir?

Postby Gara » 09 Sep 2012, 22:32

lagian di tempat tinggal ane cd sama dvd beda Rp.500,- jadi setuju :)
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Re: LiveCD Ubuntu Bakal Berakhir?

Postby semut » 10 Sep 2012, 12:20

kalau masalah cd atau dvd nggak jadi soal, orang biasanya jg pake UFD :grin:
yg jadi problem tuh... :grin: :grin:

File yg di download makin gedee..... :cry: :cry:
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Re: LiveCD Ubuntu Bakal Berakhir?

Postby sta » 10 Sep 2012, 12:35

apa aja boleh
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Re: LiveCD Ubuntu Bakal Berakhir?

Postby ninja » 10 Sep 2012, 14:25

semut wrote:kalau masalah cd atau dvd nggak jadi soal, orang biasanya jg pake UFD :grin:
yg jadi problem tuh... :grin: :grin:

File yg di download makin gedee..... :cry: :cry:

Bener banget, apalagi bagi pengguna yang bandwidthnya kecil :)
Akankah era CD bakal berakhir? Kaya dulu zamannya disket :D
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Re: LiveCD Ubuntu Bakal Berakhir?

Postby iyang » 10 Sep 2012, 15:26

Kalo liat dari performanya lebih baik menggunakan UFD dibanding menggunakan CD kalo menurut saya lho...
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Re: LiveCD Ubuntu Bakal Berakhir?

Postby Sudoers » 10 Sep 2012, 16:45

Fokus masalahnya kan iso ubuntu 12.10 tambah gede sehingga media CD tidak lagi cukup untuk menampung file instalernya.

Pilihannya:
1. dvd atau usb
2. custom keknya asyik :d turunin tuh sizenya biar muat ke cd lagi

Teknologi livecdnya gue yakin tetap ada.
Lah wong liveusb ato apalah istilahnya mengacu ke teknologi livecd itu.

Argumen pribadiku.
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Re: LiveCD Ubuntu Bakal Berakhir?

Postby omigasun » 12 Sep 2012, 17:46

Pertama udah gag pake cd..,trus lama2 ubuntu makin lama makin berat jadi pengguna hardware jadul macam saya harus tergerus jaman.., ane kira cuman microsoft aja yang versi baru os nya butuh hardware "lebih", ubuntu juga.., ya walaupun ada turunannya sih yang lebih ringan..,
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Re: LiveCD Ubuntu Bakal Berakhir?

Postby belthsazar » 12 Sep 2012, 20:38

beratnya sih gak. cuman bueraaaatt.. lama gak pake Unity (lama main KDE + GS) trus iseng login pake Unity karena kangen :grin:, eh sampe 3 menit gak nongol juga launcher + panelnya. jadi kek windos 7 saya dulu. wkwkw.. untungnya cuman di Unity yang kek gitu.
btw saya sangat mendukung perubahan di Ubuntu. karena saya nginstal Ubuntu (dan Linux lain) gak pernah lagi make CD. lebih banyak main DVD (khusus BT dan Blankon Multimedia) atau FD (distro lain) karena performance untuk FD jauh lebih gahar. loading cepet banget gak pake lama.
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Re: LiveCD Ubuntu Bakal Berakhir?

Postby SatriyaMujung » 13 Sep 2012, 08:22

kalaupun dibikin LiveDVD, laptop & desktop jaman sekarang pastinya sudah banyak yang pake DVD burner, apalagi yang speknya tinggi.
ukuran iso boleh naik, moga^ performanya makin enteng. :grin:
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Re: LiveCD Ubuntu Bakal Berakhir?

Postby CDX » 13 Sep 2012, 13:20

belthsazar wrote:setuju. toh selama ini saya lebih sering pake LiveFD daripada LiveCD. :grin:


andai Live CD dihilangkan kita ga bisa pake Live FD, seperti kata pak lurah

Sudoers wrote:Lah wong liveusb ato apalah istilahnya mengacu ke teknologi livecd itu.

Argumen pribadiku.


karna Live CD itu FITUR bukan MEDIA
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Re: LiveCD Ubuntu Bakal Berakhir?

Postby belthsazar » 13 Sep 2012, 23:22

kalo baca artikel di atas, yang dimaksud LiveCD berakhir itu bukan fiturnya, tapi media CDnya. jadi, saya tetep keukeuh pada kata 'setuju' :D
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Re: LiveCD Ubuntu Bakal Berakhir?

Postby husnia » 14 Sep 2012, 08:14

oh.. kirain gak bisa dicobain dulu tanpa instal.

kalo cm gara2 ukuran tambah gede ya wajarlah kalo gak ada liveCD.

yg jadi masalah donlotnya tambah lama.. :tired:
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Re: LiveCD Ubuntu Bakal Berakhir?

Postby semut » 14 Sep 2012, 08:35

pengen dr shipit sediain mini install jg, yg bisa aku install di kompi P3 tnpa custom sendiri :D
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Re: LiveCD Ubuntu Bakal Berakhir?

Postby CDX » 14 Sep 2012, 11:40

kalo baca di atas ane jadi tambah bingung... :D
soale pengertian dari LiveCD itu jadi rancu
LiveCD itu media atw fitur..???

the Ubuntu Live CD* is dead.
Ubuntu 12.10 will increase the maximum size of its disc image from 700MB to 800MB
(padahal shipit kan dah ga kirim2 CD/DVD.. :D kita mesti donlot)
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Re: LiveCD Ubuntu Bakal Berakhir?

Postby blackshirt » 14 Sep 2012, 12:32

yang namanya media itu fisiknya, bisa cdrom/cd .....
kenapa disebut live cd??
Pertama file isonya seukuran kapasitas cd pada umumnya,yang kurang lebih 700 Mb...
Kedua karena adanya teknologi live yang memungkinkan linux dijalankan langsung dari cd tanpa perlu menginstall ke dalam hard disk..
Lah kalo ukuran isonya 4,5 gb, cd nya sudah gak muat lagi, makanya ada live dvd juga... Karena menyesuaikan kapasitas dvd.
Apa tidak mungkin iso live cd diburning ke dvd? Jawabnya tentu saja boleh saja, sah-sah saja...
Dan perkembangan media penyimpan sekarang juga berkembang pesat. Sekarang media cd/cdrom makin jarang digunakan, sekarang umumnya sudah dalam format dvd...suatu saat mungkin dvd sekarang tidak populer lagi, berganti dengan yang lebih besar, semisal blueray disc.. Yang bisa 5x lipat daya tampungnya dari dvd yang umum sekarang.
Mungkin juga suatu saat isonya bukan lagi live dvd, tapi bisa jadi live blueray :d
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Re: LiveCD Ubuntu Bakal Berakhir?

Postby CDX » 14 Sep 2012, 14:08

isonya Live blueray.. wow 25GB :D

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